Eight hundred covid-positive Haitians quarantined in El Paso motel.
Note the source: not America's Praetorian-Corporate Media Complex, which at best underplays and more typically ignores disastrous decision-making by the current party in power.
The body count meter is suspended when you wear a "-D."
Covid is an especial problem amongst Haitians because less than 0.2 percent of that tragic nation are fully vaccinated. And those who are are almost certainly part of the corrupt ruling class who aren't leaving.
How bad is it? So bad that Laredo's Democratic Mayor is calling the policies of Orange Man Bad favorable by comparison. THAT bad.
Finally, take note: 60,000 more migrants surging north now.
But that's fine with both the ruling party and Wall Street. In fact, it's the whole idea: allegedly strengthening the ruling party's voting bloc(s), and ensuring a wage-depressing stream of ultra-cheap labor.
All during a pandemic we're forcing the locals to get shots for.
Lucky about that body count meter.
That's what I keep trying to tell people. If you want me to take COVID serious, then don't be letting hundreds of thousands of more cases into the country. That's exactly what you'd do if it WASN'T a big deal.
ReplyDeleteI mean the theory is at the very least you'd lock down the border and only let people in through vaccination stations.
Wait! I thought the wage-depressers were Republicans. That said, immigration and even refugee status has been a radioactive political thing for at least two generations now. Privileged Americans might think they have a moral high ground to close the doors, but that wouldn't be at all Christian.
ReplyDeleteI think the Biden Admin is handcuffed by history and by the hostage-taking GOP. Nobody is willing to meet halfway and split the difference.
So, yes, I agree it's bad. But the Orange Man and Uncle Joe have a h*** of a lot of company. It's a Matthew 25:31ff moment for a lot of people who wrap themselves in a Jesus banner.
Privileged Americans might think they have a moral high ground to close the doors, but that wouldn't be at all Christian.
DeleteSo I trust you leave all the doors on your house open then with a welcome sign inviting all and sundry?
Nobody is willing to meet halfway and split the difference.
And what would be a split halfway with entering/not entering the country? Cutting the refugee in half and tossing the top part into the USA and the leaving the bottom in Mexico?
First, I've always invited people to my home. I don't need to leave doors open. I prefer to offer hospitality, friendship, and good times.
DeleteSecond, I wouldn't mind welcoming more Christians from the Americas here, since we already employ some millions of them. Give people a reasonable path to citizenship. Monitor other visitors carefully. GOP obstruction on this issue (among others) is patently unpatriotic, modernist, and unChristian.
Looks like the internet ate my comment which is just as well. I don't know why I forgot and thought a moment that Todd was capable of any kind of honest conversation.
DeleteI think a closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.
DeleteImmigration controls are hardly a new thing. Even in the glory days of Ellis Island, disease carriers were not let in. And then came the Immigration Acts, which set quotas.
ReplyDeleteWhat is modernist is setting no limits whatsoever, apart from some token low-passenger flights back to Port au Prince.
I don't see anything Christian in what is going on under Biden and the Democrats (and with the silent connivance of cheap labor Republicans).
But no doubt the Oligarchs would like to be seen in the skin-suit of the Gospel as they continue the human misery factories and depress the wages and bargaining power of unskilled citizens.
It seems to me that some genuine Christians have turned unlimited immigration into their own version of the corban, telling their poor neighbors to pound sand as they offer billions to people who just crossed what is supposed to be our southern border.
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/10/04/guess-what-else-showed-up-in-the-reconciliation-bill-for-illegal-aliens-n420131
Lots of blind spots, and not just on the part of those who are worked up about illegal immigration. Not even remotely.
If the problem is the home countries of theses illegals, then do what that great liberal Franklin Roosevelt did, and send in a regiment of marines to bring order, sanitation and vaccinations to these countries.
ReplyDeleteSo far, the only people I see mentioning open doors are Dale and Nate. That appears, at least here, to be not a progressive thing. Certainly agreed with "pueblosw." One big problem is what goes on in the home countries not only of illegal migrants but refugee-seekers, green cards, and such. That includes US interference in the inner workings of a lot of other American nations. We don't really get to foster criminal and immoral activity elsewhere and complain too loudly when the consequences come back to bite. Course, it would take at least a generation to reverse course on a lot of this. Plus a leash on a few corporations and some mercenaries. As I said, radioactive. For a lot of reasons.
ReplyDeleteYou need to get out more, then. President Obama has said the exact same thing about our lack of border controls.
Deletehttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/concha-obamas-criticism-toward-bidens-border-should-be-newsworthy/vi-AAOZK8v
And until you say you're willing to state some actual limits to migration over the border, then you're in favor of open borders.
Show your cards, Todd:
what's your topline number for people to come into our nation per year?
Under what circumstances would you deny admission permanently?
And one more thing: punishing unskilled American workers for the greed and sins of American governments and corporations while enriching both of the latter is something the oligarchs would hardly object to.
DeleteIt seems your offer has been accepted, in fact.
Just one more thing--the real Columbo ending:
DeleteDon't play the No True Scotsman Card and say Obama is not a progressive.
That he looks a little less progressive these days just shows how much the hardcore types have red-shifted in five years.
Also good things to mull over here. Corporations and politicians, even the occasional small business owner have feelings of entitlement when it comes to their employees. I suspect a minimum wage much higher, while engaging a temporary inflation of sorts in some sections of the US economy would be a better long-term solution. Also useful would be shifting workplaces large and small more to the side of democracy and away from Soviet-style authoritarianism.
DeleteAs for Mr Obama, as with so-called open borders, it's only conservatives who mention he wasn't a real progressive. I think he had his moments. But I still disagreed with him on a number of issues and would place myself to his Left on most of those.
Fake news: And until you say you're willing to state some actual limits to migration over the border, then you're in favor of open borders.
ReplyDeleteLame try. As I said: the only people mentioning open borders these days are the people who seem to oppose most any immigration.
I've already stated my position that halfway between no immigration and open borders is optimal. Clearly, US businesses exploit holes in the system to encourage imports. If I respected that need, we likely need to respond to the pressures of the economy, and I have no problem with that. Assuming we limit the numbers of much-desired professionals. Likewise people who came here under the age of 18 and are settled as job-holding taxpayers.
I would limit people coming from the Eastern Hemisphere to spouses. I think its reasonable to set a higher numbers limit and prioritize families above single persons. I would abolish the preference for degreed persons, especially singles. I think the total number can be higher than 675,000 but I'm open to a reasonable cap in the 1-2M range. And given we can monitor refugees, especially if we hire more domestic pros and shift people off the guns, that would be better and more humane for all.
But for the hissy and factually inaccurate first three sentences, this is an examplar of constructive dialogue.
DeleteGenuine thanks for the remainder, which I will have to mull over.