The Latin Mass will be dead in Detroit by the end of 2023.
The archbishop has left the Institute of Christ the King parish more or less alone.
But everything else is up to the "lively pastoral charity" (guffaw) of Rome.
This lively pastoral charity is exactly analogous to that of an oncologist toward a tumor, as you have no doubt noticed.
And you can count on Vigneron's successor giving the Institute a long walk of a short plank.
Ah, well--Eastern Catholicism is alive and well in these parts. And at least two of the Churches do not worship the ground the papal office trods.
On a related note: for the first time in 70 years, no priest was ordained for the Archdiocese of Detroit. The Francis Effect, baby!
Most people acknowledge the local bishop is key for priest discernment and ordinations. Your archbishop has held the cathedra for over a decade. It might be he had a bad spell 4-6 years ago. Other dioceses in the world are doing well, so for those guys, Francis Effect, yay!
ReplyDeleteAs for the end of the 1962 Missal, I've known few real-life people who were sourpusses on Vatican II, but far more online. The online detractors were the loudest, and given the Roman penchant for unity, I'm not surprised at the crackdown, nor on the seeming unfairness of it to loyal Catholics.
It has nothing to do with pastoral charity of any kind. It's pretty much the comments questioning the modern Roman Rite and the vast majority of Catholics who worship in it. That and Pope Benedict XVI giving false hopes and underestimating his gesture of 2007.
I tend to agree that the local bishop is more of a key as he is the gatekeeper, complete with discernment staff. But in the past when I have pointed either the collapse (Abp. Bergoglio's Buenos Aires) or non-existence (the late Bp. Untener's Saginaw) of priestly vocations, I got a lot of handwaving about "quality, not quantity," secularism and cultural shifts, celibacy and, yes, the bad witness of popes.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is, a pope can inspire vocations. The flip side is that he can also suppress them, given that a young man may not desire to be the rhetorical whipping boy for either Francis' tired strawmanning about priests or the branch manager Francis appoints to be the face of the papacy.
As to Rome's defenestration of the Latin church's liturgical tradition, all I will say in response is that it takes a special kind of smirking malevolence to give heed to internet trad psychotics while coddling those in the NO who gleefully mutilate the church in their own ways. But that happens when you have a pontiff who doubles as a divisive faction leader.
But all of that is becoming more theoretical for me, so.
As for pointing, it really depends on the charism of the bishop more than the ideology. Mahony and Trautmann, the oft-misspelled guys, did good work, per capita in their sees for many years. Perhaps more vital than even the pope is how much a bishop invests in campus ministry, especially in large public universities. Scores of young adult parishioners all trying to figure out where they are called. A much more fertile field than altar boys. I'd be interested to know how Lansing is doing these days, given the three big schools within its borders.
ReplyDeleteAnd about branch managers, I thought that was the progressive id for most 1978-2013 bishops.
"And about branch managers, I thought that was the progressive id for most 1978-2013 bishops."
ReplyDeleteThey were right--at least to the extent that the Latin church's ecclesiology is papal totalitarianism decked with a little V2 PR tinsel about collegiality. But they stopped worrying and learned to love the bomb when they captured the throne.
As always, power is a marvelous solvent for principle.
While it is nice to hear that Mahony may have done something other than coddling child rapists, he's been retired for a while now. Mundelein is echoing with 15 seminarians. Any word on the rest of the 2013- bishops in America?
Trautmann's translation fixations aside, he was a decent bishop, God rest his soul. His pushback on Tom Ridge was more than welcome.
ReplyDeleteThe Reporter's tribute to the bishop omitted that, naturally.