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Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Is this something?

I sure think it is.

Further proof of Francis’ trust in Kasper came in February when the pope tapped him to deliver a lengthy talk for a meeting of all the world’s cardinals who had gathered to discuss updating the church’s policies on a range of hot-button issues.

The meeting, or consistory, was the first in a series of discussions that Francis has planned to jump start long-stalled talks on contentious topics — one of them whether divorced and remarried Catholics can receive Communion; it’s not the sexiest topic but it is a huge pastoral crisis given that so many Catholics have remarried without an annulment and are barred from the altar rail. Even a murderer can confess and receive Communion, as Kasper likes to note.

“I told the pope, ‘Holy Father, there will be a controversy afterward,’” Kasper said. The pope laughed and told him: “That’s good, we should have that!”

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Despite the pushback, colleagues describe Kasper as rejuvenated by the reform Francis has launched.

“I do not know if my proposals will be acceptable,” the cardinal said with a shrug. “I made them in agreement with the pope, I did not do them just myself. I spoke beforehand with the pope, and he agreed.”

That seems to be a kinda big something, really--getting it pre-cleared with the Pope.

You might not agree--but that's ok. It's a still free-ish country. 

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  2. Meant to say, If I commit murder, will I be absolved if Kasper says I should say 10 Hail Mary's?

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  3. And here the culmination of the decay begun years ago that saw priests privately winking at contraception, thus creating a kind of parallel magisterium. And the Church gripes about relativism when its pope slyly supports end runs around its age-old understanding of marriage? Francis may be one prodigal son the Father disowns.

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  4. Actually the Church has a legitimate doctrinal way to make Cardinal Kasper’s alleged liberal policy on marriage a reality.

    According to the current pastoral practice in the annulment process it is the Church’s policy to assume a disputed marriage is valid till proven invalid. There is no dogmatic reason why this must be the case. The Church can assume all formally disputed marriages are invalid till proven valid which is a high bar to climb and would make Annulments even more wide spread & granted with more ease.
    Now would that be a pastoral disaster? It could likely be since the abuse of it will undermine the Church’s teaching on marriage on the practical level. Not that under the current policy historically it hasn’t been abused especially in America.

    Would it be an example of detectability or Fallibility? Not at all.

    You know Price rather then undermine people’s faith in the Church & Christ’s promises by extension, you might try learning some theology before getting hysterical and believing every radtrad conspiracy rumor mongering twit?

    Ya Think?

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  5. Hey, Ben:

    If I thought you'd listen, I'd talk to you. From my experience, you're not big on that, though. You don't read, you lecture. I'm not interested in another lengthy insulting sermon.

    Speaking of which: you just used up last free pass to comment here. One more insult, and you are done.

    Do you get me?

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  6. >If I thought you'd listen, I'd talk to you.

    What make you think you come off as open minded?

    >From my experience, you're not big on that, though. You don't read, you lecture. I'm not interested in another lengthy insulting sermon.

    With you an "insult" could be calling names for it's own sake or saying your are wrong or don't know what you are talking about.

    It's clearly subject on your part.

    >Speaking of which: you just used up last free pass to comment here. One more insult, and you are done.

    >Do you get me?

    Oh stop with the pretense. The minute I disagree with you I violate that standard. The minute I find your reasoning wanting I violate it.

    I don't even have to call you names.

    If you want to ban me then do so.

    If you want an echo chamber of yes men hey it's your blog.

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  7. You wear out your welcome at multiple blogs and it's always the host's fault.

    Sure. Why not?

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  8. >You wear out your welcome at multiple blogs and it's always the host's fault.

    >Sure. Why not?

    Most of the time it is but I am bias.;-)

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