tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post2283233537716154214..comments2024-03-12T09:16:40.228-04:00Comments on Dyspeptic Mutterings: Misery loves company.DPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12249117106906577345noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-86653903101583261382014-05-07T00:02:02.855-04:002014-05-07T00:02:02.855-04:00@Karl J. 5:53
Reads as though you'd be a good...@Karl J. 5:53<br /><br />Reads as though you'd be a good pick for a subway crazy holding a sign announcing the end of the world and telling folks that God will kill them if they don't catch on. Give the intensity a rest, Karl, either that or the booze. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-78234850137686226672014-05-05T17:53:39.945-04:002014-05-05T17:53:39.945-04:00YOU THINK YOU CAN FINE PEACE WITH THE EARLIEST OF ...YOU THINK YOU CAN FINE PEACE WITH THE EARLIEST OF ADULTERERS, THE ORTHODOX?<br /><br />YOU HAVE ALREADY CONDEMNED YOURSELF WITH THE UNREPENTANT ADULTERERS? OR YOU CAN TURN AWAY AND RETURN TO THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, WHO ALTHOUGH UNFAITHFUL REMAINS HIS BRIDE. <br /><br />YOUR CHOICE IS OBVIOUS IF YOU WERE EVER CATHOLIC!<br /><br />BECAUSE YOUR SPOUSE IS UNFAITHFUL DOES NOT JUSTIFY YOUR<br />BEING Karl Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506039683289055856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-76740824031422912942014-05-02T22:09:18.813-04:002014-05-02T22:09:18.813-04:00Orthodoxy = Adultery with your fingers crossed beh...Orthodoxy = Adultery with your fingers crossed behind you back!<br /><br />The Orthodox are ANIMALS!<br /><br />Catholics are becoming ANIMALS!<br /><br />I guess THIS is Ecumenism?<br /><br /><br />Karl<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-30332524266061135622014-05-01T16:50:54.596-04:002014-05-01T16:50:54.596-04:00All I have had has been the Novus Disordo since I ...All I have had has been the Novus Disordo since I became Catholic. That was hard enough, near unbearable. I stuck with it for ten years. I tried to ignore everything and get some peace. Now we have Pope Francis. I can't ignore anymore. I can't act like I have any respect for him much less that I follow him. I've been going to my local Orthodox Church and I love every second of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-34187976478008884632014-05-01T00:04:37.857-04:002014-05-01T00:04:37.857-04:00Call me Faustina. I got here via Conservative Blo...Call me Faustina. I got here via Conservative Blog For Peace. I am another convert, NO but with sympathies for Traditionalists.<br /><br />In some ways, Pope Francis has been an answer to a prayer; that the Pope will protect the poor and marginalized against the forces that want to population control them out of existence. <br /><br />At the same time, i have had increased queasiness since his Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-82381332868136712982014-04-30T16:04:48.030-04:002014-04-30T16:04:48.030-04:00Grüß dich, Herr Thälmann!Grüß dich, Herr Thälmann!Codgitator (Cadgertator)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00872093788960965392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-39588138151658397392014-04-30T13:45:01.790-04:002014-04-30T13:45:01.790-04:00@mgl 11:26
No one has accused you of bad faith or...@mgl 11:26<br /><br />No one has accused you of bad faith or evil intent, mgl, simply of being disingenuous. Maybe your transition into traditionalism has been faster than you care to acknowledge publicly. That's your right. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-62382084739440773582014-04-30T11:26:19.449-04:002014-04-30T11:26:19.449-04:00"Are you now or have you ever been ...",..."Are you now or have you ever been ...", eh, Anon?<br /><br />Some time ago, a commenter on a prominent priest-blog accused me of being an NCR plant because I objected to the relish some trads take in our saints' dreadful visions of hell. Now I am apparently a sneaky and dishonest SSPXish wrecker for questioning the New Mass and the often-puzzling phraseology of Council documents.<Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-5022030208820762922014-04-29T21:47:52.564-04:002014-04-29T21:47:52.564-04:00When I want an inquisition in my comment boxes, I ...When I want an inquisition in my comment boxes, I will be sure to give the signal. <br /><br />No such signal has been given. <br /><br />In other words: let's not impugn each others' bona fides. Especially since according to one of the Pope's appointees, your host probably has "crypto-lefebvrian tendencies."<br /><br />Tearing people up is the Pope's job.DPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249117106906577345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-48863622820538519732014-04-29T21:45:02.494-04:002014-04-29T21:45:02.494-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07616636068658389644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-56010687867557595582014-04-29T21:23:57.789-04:002014-04-29T21:23:57.789-04:00@mgl 1:56
Happy to hear that you do not identify ...@mgl 1:56<br /><br />Happy to hear that you do not identify Francis with "Ratzingerian Catholicism". We had a padded cell waiting for you if you were to tell us otherwise. :-)<br /><br />That said, however, it seems particularly disingenuous of you to read subsequently:<br /><br />"I am inclining to the argument that (for instance) while the Novus Ordo can be done well, it is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-14777843897934148452014-04-29T18:42:54.102-04:002014-04-29T18:42:54.102-04:00Francis is an idiot or much, much worse. My best g...Francis is an idiot or much, much worse. My best guess is the latter.<br /><br />I hope to meet him to tell him off to his face. He needs and deserves far worse.<br /><br /><br />KarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-57030244530248340772014-04-29T11:00:44.108-04:002014-04-29T11:00:44.108-04:00Yep.Yep.Pro Ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814831624547392519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-37152983740676370512014-04-29T01:56:32.359-04:002014-04-29T01:56:32.359-04:00Anon 10:48 (same Anon as before?)
Thanks! But tha...Anon 10:48 (same Anon as before?)<br /><br />Thanks! But that's not what I meant. <br /><br />Basically, what I called the Ratzingerian (or neo-Catholic) view is that Vatican II is basically unproblematic when viewed using a hermeneutic of continuity, and that any ill effects we observe are due to hijackings or misreadings by rupturists. In this view, all you have to do is correct the Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-26674309250030746242014-04-29T01:21:20.827-04:002014-04-29T01:21:20.827-04:00I feel alot of concerns about Pope Francis, but ul...I feel alot of concerns about Pope Francis, but ultimately I have to remember what St. Peter said when Jesus asked the disciples if they were going to leave: Lord, where else can we go? You have the words of eternal life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-59069687923383261882014-04-28T22:48:36.745-04:002014-04-28T22:48:36.745-04:00@mgl 6:16
You genuinely entertain. You actually i...@mgl 6:16<br /><br />You genuinely entertain. You actually identify Francis with "Ratzingerian Catholicism" and that, in turn, you see as having "an untenable nature"? So for you its either the flat earth theology of the manuals with their abstracted states of pure nature or its on-going Polka Masses? I have good news: While Francis' Papacy may already justify your leavingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-23272472457344194572014-04-28T22:48:07.992-04:002014-04-28T22:48:07.992-04:00Sorry, St. John Paul the II. I wasn't trying t...Sorry, St. John Paul the II. I wasn't trying to make a statement there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-81385402415009543972014-04-28T22:47:06.202-04:002014-04-28T22:47:06.202-04:00I think God in His Wisdom chose this particular Po...I think God in His Wisdom chose this particular Pope at this particular time to show His Faithful why a Pope should never call collect or tweet messages.<br /><br />Really, the farther the papacy goes from being established Catholic the more it is just... well. The picture of John Paul the II clutching a koala still gets me. <br /><br />Difference between opening a window in the Cathedral and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-48750032268319567242014-04-28T19:51:47.184-04:002014-04-28T19:51:47.184-04:00mgl:
Loved your take-down of the latest Christia...mgl: <br /><br />Loved your take-down of the latest Christianese tweet from Rome. <br /><br />I have a very similar trajectory as yourself, though I converted about five years earlier. Let's just say that Fr. Bergoglio <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iUEnNEK76A" rel="nofollow">made a traddie out of me</a>. My greatest struggle is that, as you note, Francis is deepening, rather than Codgitator (Cadgertator)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00872093788960965392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-15238934941502458722014-04-28T18:16:44.067-04:002014-04-28T18:16:44.067-04:00@tamsin325
St. Andrew's Cathedral, Victoria. ...@tamsin325<br /><br />St. Andrew's Cathedral, Victoria. You?<br /><br />@Anon 3:08<br />I'm a recent convert (baptized 2010), and I've been to (I think) four TLMs since I started attending in 2008. I've only ever known the late post-conciliar Church, and until this papacy I would have aligned myself firmly with the Ratzingerian or neo-Catholic view. But our current Holy Father Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-81298348406563400332014-04-28T17:04:55.226-04:002014-04-28T17:04:55.226-04:00I don't know, Dale. Coming from outside the f...I don't know, Dale. Coming from outside the fold, it so far seems like you've got a undisciplined guy who goes off half-cocked now and again and lets the Vatican put out his brush fires. When Francis declares that Vitally Important Roman Catholic Doctrine A is not that vitally important and then <i>acts on it</i>, then you'll have problems.Christopher Johnsonhttp://themcj.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-40146035322260160212014-04-28T16:42:52.994-04:002014-04-28T16:42:52.994-04:00problem.
Inequality is the root of all social evi...problem.<br /><br />Inequality is the root of all social evil...<br /><br />howsabout Envy is the root of all totalitarian movements that try to eliminate inequality and end up killing people, so stop it with the envy already.<br /><br />hey mgl, I live in Far West Portlandia. Where do you go to Mass? --tamsin325Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-79659295530123604212014-04-28T15:39:28.694-04:002014-04-28T15:39:28.694-04:00Fear not, Dale! Phil Lawler has investigated and y...Fear not, Dale! Phil Lawler has investigated and you'll be relieved to know that it's ... <a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/the-city-gates.cfm?id=787" rel="nofollow">a translation issue</a>!<br /><br />Apparently, the Latin @Pontifex_ln tweet was<br /><br /><i>Iniquitas radix malorum.</i><br /><br />Or,<br /><br /><i>Injustice/Inequality/Iniquity [choose one] is the root Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-88905938727240466702014-04-28T15:08:06.560-04:002014-04-28T15:08:06.560-04:00Dale,
The results of your polls here instruct. It...Dale,<br /><br />The results of your polls here instruct. It might be helpful additionally to see whether the respondent's complaints are developments of their underlying attitudes toward Vatican II, that is to say whether or not they received the Council in same way as did Cardinal Ratzinger at the time or as did SSPX. In my case, the concerns about Francis are coming from a Ratzinger Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3861468.post-11052233776343219992014-04-28T15:07:45.201-04:002014-04-28T15:07:45.201-04:00Yes, and it began the moment he was announced, as ...Yes, and it began the moment he was announced, as I had some gut pangs of doubt about him that I ignored for as long as possible.Paul Zummohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574775522802920843noreply@blogger.com